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  US & UK difference

  by Olig in

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  so i was wondering, is there a difference between the baseline attitudes of jw's in the us and the uk?

  i hear tonnes and tonnes of experiences regarding elders chasing people up and hounding them.

  and people having to devote their lives to fading out.

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  You are both extremists. There must be a middle way.
  
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  Is there any appointed one disfellowshiped?

  by Roxie in

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  i was wondering... are here people who used to be appointed ones and left the jws?

  if yes: what was the reason you left and do you believe in god now?

  i am just curious.

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  They do mess with semantics - Jesus is the one who is anointed. That's what Christ and Messiah means. Anointed to be king. The term 'Christian' inherantly contains some meaning of that word but it means they are following Jesus, they don't claim his status.

  However, when you study you get told that the anointed read the Bible as if it is written personally to them. Well that's how we are are supposed to read it. How else will you apply the lessons in it to yourself? It was written to teach us.

  Also the concept 'children of God' gets muddled up. In one way all are children of God, that's why Christ died because God loves all of us. But many, like Stephen Lett, Anthony Morris III, David Splane are wayward, so Jesus would chastise people like that and say they are doing the will of their Father, the Devil. They are lost sheep, acting like goats. But they are still precious and God doesn't want to destroy them. He wants them to repent.
  

  If you read the Bible carefully because you like the way Jesus was towards others, you do draw closer to God. But WBTS mess with that concept to imply that if you feel like that you are anointed to be a king. Well, it doesn't belong to anyone to say they are going to rule with Christ. All you can do is hope to be approved by Jesus Christ. (Revelation 3:21), (2 Timothy 2:12)
  
  

  So I'd be very cautious with the use of the term anointed. I'd suggest keeping this quote in mind, "beware the leaven of the Pharisees." (Luke 12:1)
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  Is there any appointed one disfellowshiped?

  by Roxie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was wondering... are here people who used to be appointed ones and left the jws?

  if yes: what was the reason you left and do you believe in god now?

  i am just curious.

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  Anna Marina

  Hi Roxie - Ray continued to believe in God - after all what has an apostate corporation got to do with the Bible? Nothing. This is how Ray ended one of his letters to me:

  I hope that things may go well for you and wish you God's guidance, comfort and strength as you face up to life's problems. Hope your studies of Greek and Hebrew prove successful.
  Sincerely,
  Ray
  
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  If You Were Invited To A Judicial Committee How Did It Go??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  was it awful?

  did you feel freedom?

  was it a kangaroo court!.

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  Anna Marina

  Thank you Vanderhoven7
  
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  If You Were Invited To A Judicial Committee How Did It Go??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  was it awful?

  did you feel freedom?

  was it a kangaroo court!.

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  I was invited twice. So I didn't attend twice. But I did turn up over an hour before the 2nd one was due to be held and told them they had no right to do this and that I did not recognise their authority, nor did I recognise them as Jehovah's Witnesses and I told them their behaviour was appauling and that they all ought to be ashamed of themselves.

  Before this I also turned up to an elders meeting with letters detailing pretty much the same as above. There were probably about 16 or 17 men at this elders meeting and they were unwilling to come to the door. I sensed the one who opened the door was even trying to pretend it wasn't an elders meeting so they could all hide. But I made it clear that I knew what was going on and invited them to step outside. Only 3 did and they didn't linger.
  

  Anyway they had no Christian authority so effectively they've done nothing to me in relation to anything scriptural. Except they have proved themselves to be a bunch of lying, bullying, apostates.
  
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  US & UK difference

  by Olig in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i was wondering, is there a difference between the baseline attitudes of jw's in the us and the uk?

  i hear tonnes and tonnes of experiences regarding elders chasing people up and hounding them.

  and people having to devote their lives to fading out.

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  Anna Marina

  Hi Olig

  I think it depends on your situation and how you handle it. I am in UK and I know ones who have left quietly and others who get hounded.
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  Getting disfellowshipped to marry and return

  by confused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just wondering if there is any official rules on dealing with this.

  a sister in the congregation is planning to divorce her husband who is also a witness so she can marry a different brother in the same hall!

  yes this is a huge scandal!

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  I am aware of this happening. People don't seem that bothered by it anymore. Guess the shock of it has worn off and people think its acceptable now.
  

  What I can't figure out is this. They know Jehovah disapproves of fornication, so they do it in order to divorce. If they had any concern about how Jehovah feels, they'd at least just get divorced and remarried. It would be better than fornicating first. Not much, I grant you but a bit.

  But they are not bothered about God's standards. They are bothered about what others think and so long as no one is too shocked and no one asks questions...
  
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  What Do You Think Would Make A Witness Decide It Was Now Time To Leave The “Truth”?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  is there anything that will make that loyal witness ever see the light??

  you know, that well respected elder, pioneer, or witness who has been in the “truth “ for decades..

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  The grace of God.
  
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  Do You Have A Negative Outlook Because You Were Once A JW?

  by minimus in

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  it could be argued that exjws have issues in life simply because they were jehovah’s witnesses at a point in their lives.

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  do you think you or we are fairly normal considering we were jehovah’s witnesses or do you think we have a lot of baggage because we are a bit messed up ( even if we don’t even know it)?.

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  Anna Marina

  I think I've had an insightful education and learnt many valuable lessons which I enjoy sharing with other like-minded people.
  
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  Nº 001 Subliminal na literatura da Watchtower

  by indicetj.com in

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  2. scandals

  olha, se você é uma testemunha de jeová:.

  http://figuras.indicetj.com/001-o-caolha-raivoso.html.

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  Anna Marina

  If you look at the pictures of Babylon the Great in the Revelation Grand Climax book, then compare them to Esther in the Imitate their Faith book p 153 you'll see she's got the same moth or butterfly earring and her clothes are the same colour as Babylon the Great (purple and scarlet - although they've pinked up the scarlet).

  If you look at the picture of Esther on p 128/9 of that same book, ask yourself, "why is she looking at that wierd statute of two drooping swan necks and watching all those little birds? A couple of them are tits."

  Now I'm not going to spell it out, but if you wanted to stick your hand up and give the most innocent sounding shocking answer at a mid-week meeting, this delightful picture might have been drawn just for you.